This is a common question we’ve been asked by many of you guys. We’ve been laying off, until now, because our advice on this issue is going to feel like a kick to your ballsack. It’s going to be harsh and long, but suck it up because you asked for it.
Why You’re in the “Friend Zone” in the First Place
There are many factors to why you’re in the Friend Zone, but the most common reason is that you didn’t move fast enough when you first saw her: we’re not saying to take out your penis and lay it on her leg the first time you meet her.
Telling her YOUR INTENT when you first interact can determine whether you’re going to be a potential “friend zoned” or “sexual” partner. An example of this can be as simple as telling her that she is cute, sexy, gives you a chubby… RIGHT AWAY.
Also, another big reason you could be in the friend zone is because of societies’ brainwashed theory that you have to be “friends first” before you can start anything with the girl. This mentality is stupid.
The Misconception
There are a bunch of stupid chumps out there who think you must start the relationship before the relationship. As in, you have to be friends first before becoming sexual monkey lovers. Most of these guys are just too pussy to understand that most girls hate this mentality because it does three things:
1. Girls don’t like guys who don’t know what they want. They like guys who are assertive, who lead, who are strong-willed. So, confessing to her is essentially showing that you’re flip-flopper. And, being indecisive isn’t an attractive trait.
2. She can see it as a betrayal of friendship when a guy finally confesses to a girl friend that he “likes her.” Do you know how many times we’ve heard “You just wanted to be my friend so you could get into my pants?” She trusted you, she confided in you, she fucking invested so much of her time to help you as a friend, and your confession means she wasted portions of her life she’ll never be able to take back. Why? because you’re essentially telling her that you’re a liar and a scammer.
It can be a parallel to cheating in an exclusive relationship.
3. You’re perceived as weak because you don’t have the confidence to pick up other girls. She’ll see your confession, that you like her, as a last desperation of hope that you want a girl in your life. And, as points #1 and #2 tell you, girls don’t like desperate and needy guys.
Wait, Jason, Does this mean we can’t have girl friends?
Jesse, Kong, and I all have girls who we consider to be real good friends. But, we’re not the type of guys who actively hang out or interact with them on a daily basis. A casual lunch, call, party invite, or hang out once in a while is okay. But, doing things as though you’re in a relationship: weekly movies, daily dinners, lunches, phone conversations… is time that should be spent on OTHER GIRLS. Any guy doing everything I just mentioned and not getting laid, is a chumpster.
Also, having girl friends can sometimes help you when it comes to “winging.” In other words, your girl friend can help you get together with other girls (her friends, introducing you to random girls at the club). Just don’t rely on this shit…
So, with all this in mind -
How to Turn a Friend into a Lover
You have tell her what you want. However, it comes with a few things in mind:
1. You have to show her portions of you she hasn’t seen before. No, we’re not saying showing your penis (just yet). I’m talking about showing the personality and life changes you’ve made recently. An example would be showing her that you’re more confident and assertive (than before you’ve been watching our shit). Or, a new wardrobe; just make sure to show her something you haven’t shown, of yourself, to her yet.
Right now the current traits she sees in you equates as friend traits. Showing her something different can make her believe that these new traits are lover traits. Again, this stems from learning a new skill (like guitar) to showing her your long lost brother that you found a few days ago.
SHOW HER SOMETHING DIFFERENT ABOUT YOURSELF.
2. You have to come into the mindset that she’s either a Lover or Nothing More. I repeat, LOVER or NOTHING MORE. Listen, you confessed you liked her because you just don’t want to be her friend, so if she rejects you, why continue to be her friend? You’ll just be lying to her and yourself that you’re okay with the current terms of your relationship.
However, if you do become lovers and it doesn’t work out, there is a greater chance that you can stay ‘just friends.’ But, we’ll explain this at another time…
This is one of the hardest points to internalize. Many men don’t have the balls to walk away from the friendship after their girl friend rejects their proposal to become something more. This option can be scary but your time on earth is limited – you have to take the chance to walk away if she says no.
3. Once you have points #1 and #2 engrained in your system, you have to now find the time to tell her how you feel. You don’t have to dress up in a bow tie or go on some special date (this isn’t a god damn reality show). All you have to do is find time alone where you can tell or show her your intent.
Examples:
“I don’t want to be your friend because I want something more. Why? Cause I think you’re sexy, I like the way you talk about monkeys, I like how you bite your toenails… I want to take you out on a real date where there is a chance we’ll have sex.”
Basically, you have to make an emphasis on the sexual part. Isn’t this is why you wanted to be more than just friends? You already know her, you already like her, so it’s now about developing the sexual side of things. I can’t hold your hand and place it on her face, then grab your lips with her lips and smash them together… I’m not God, I can’t move you like a puppet.
It’s up to you to make it happen.
What Now
There isn’t really much more to say. You know what to do. You got this player.
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This may sound strange. But being yourself is a good way to start.
Being Myself ?
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I just don't know what I can say to thank you. Because of your videos I've gained confidence that puts everyone else in my class to shame (I'm 16). I've gone out trying to pick up girls and I've found I'm talking to new girls in my classes with ease and even flirting with them – which is working. Even just trying to pick up girls has changed me – I no longer give a shit about anybody. I do the most awkward things because I find them fun and in the end I make people laugh because they also realise that they don't have to be cool or suave to enjoy themselves.
I'm going to subscribe to Project GO, not because I want to advice, I'd rather develop myself from now without something as indepth as the project, simply because I want to thank you guys for being so incredible.
Hey Seb whatsup! I'm 16 as well, and I've been going out and it's been working pretty well! However I just started my senior year in high-school and I am shy there like WTF! I can go out flirt and talk to girls no problem's when I go out, but theres this invisible barrier that stops me from talking to girls at school! I guess its because I'm worried about seeing them everyday and being known as the creep that hits on girls… I don't know any tips? Anyone?
Hey, this is the thing I've been worrying about a very long time. During my first week I just kept concerning myself with 'what if I'm awkward' or 'what will my friends think'. Today and yesterday I was just like fuck it and started flirting with her, because I just didn't care how it turned out.
If it goes well – you get to talk to someone you obviously like.
If it goes badly – that's a shame, but there are so many other girls out there. If she doesn't want to go out with you so what? Just realise that there is no such thing as an awkward situation because those that care, don't matter and those that do matter will just respect you more for being an absolute beast and flirting with a girl in your class.
Trust me, as long as you realise that you cannot be awkward, you will not be known as a creep. At worst, you will be respected for having the balls to flirt with girls. If something goes badly, it was probably because it was in front of loads of people. This happened to me when I first complimented her (in front of 12 other people). Yes it was a bit strange but I talked to her afterwards and it turns out she was happy.
Essentially, treat school the same way you would treat just a normal pick up in a shopping mall.
If you want an update on my situation, I'm going to ask the girl out tomorrow
Jesse, Kong and Jason!
you muhfuckers. i love you. The fact that you REALLY do want to help us is beyond my asian head.
I have learnt SO MUCH about life, social relationships and MYSELF.
I'm so damn thankful for all you've done/shown us..
PEACE
from australia.
keep on talking to girls dude! if you got rejected 5 girls in a month. thats awseome! remember rejections leads to success. how in the hell are you going to learn if you don't practice SOCIALIZING to girls constantly. hey i get rejected a bunch of times. till one day i got one phone number from this hot girl, do i care about the other girls that rejected me? NO!. and btw im like the shyest person you''ll ever meet.
Awesome! Helps me in my cutter situation, but I'm in highschool. She's a varsity cheerleader and song team dancer and a junior while im a sophomore. How do I say the same thing without saying the sex part so she knows my intent?
i will do it
I love all the things you guys have done for everyone. One question though, have you guys ever had a relationship with a friend, then after the breakup still remained really close friends? I truly don't want to mess up our friendship for a few months of sex with her.
It's awesome how you guys give out this awesome info! But don't you guys think if this gets spread out way too much it may very well turn into a cliché? I'm an introvert lol I think a lot.
Ding!
You guys are freaking awesome. I learned so much about myself and used that as an advantage to pick up women. Love you Guys NO HETERO
Just dont say the sex part, sexual attraction isnt just about sex. Everything else is the same: Clear your intentions, show new self, say its friends or nothing. Profit.
sounds like you were angry when you wrote this
Smmahdad, that is always the million dollar question isn't it? Would you rather have something more with her or would you want to keep the friendship? It really depends on what you value more. In some cases, it may be worth the risk.
im getting laid tonight
I disagree with one point. You say that confessing my feelings makes her view that as betrayal to the friendship. I think that walking out on the friendship after getting rejected is the true betrayal. If you stay it is because you actually value the person. Leaving the friendship just shows you were only interested in getting in her pants or it means you just can't bear seeing her everyday knowing that you can never be anything more than friends. I think it takes more balls to stay friends. I guess that's just my opinion
This reminds me of a thing Wing Girls did a lil' while back. Big fan of you guys, i'm not an introverted guy to begin with but watching your videos has made literally anything be within my grasp. I know what i'm doing and I always think before I speak around girls because of you guys. It sounds arrogant but you've taught me how to be impressive at picking up chicks. My friends are jellous, i'm sending them your way. Much thanks! peace
Good point. However, it's a betrayal because you'll be lying to yourself and her by staying friends. Yes, staying friends with someone after they reject you is ballsy, but it takes even more balls to leave the friendship completely. This is why turning a friend into a lover is so hard because there is so much to lose.
I wish I could prove how much you guys transformed me last year. Anyways, awesome article!
" if you do become lovers and it doesn’t work out, there is a greater
chance that you can stay ‘just friends.’ But, we’ll explain this at
another time…" Is it because you both gave were honest enough & took risk to try and make a relationship work? I'd like to hear more about this.
Can you guys do an article on approaching girls in high school?
If this works I'm gonna get laid for the rest of the year
this is a good article. Thanks for taking the time to actually answer a question many people have! I had to walk away from my lady friend because she rejected me
it sucks but like you said in this your only on earth for so long I need to find a girl for me and you guys help give me the push.
Thanks man. I have this girl that I really like, but it fuckin' sucks cuz she already has a boyfriend. If this info was given to me a few weeks ago, it might have been different. But now, I'll just have to move one. Besides, there's plenty of fish in the sea, right?
thanks guys, wonderful piece right there. answered a lot of my questions about the topic. that girl I was talking about last article, I found out yesterday, doesn't date in high school apparently. which probably shouldve been a bit of information I should have been told a long ass time ago, but hey, what's done is done. my question to you guys now is how to convince her that dating in high school is fine. her beliefs on it are that you shouldn't do it because it doesn't go anywhere and it's a waste of time. I agree in a sense (I mean how long do most of them last like 10% or some shit) but I mean like why not you know? I'm not giving up on her yet, considering I've invested so much time into her already.
hate to say it but just move on. you don't have to be dating or be serious to hold hands or make out with a girl etc. she is probably smart enough to know this and is playing all the guys she tells this to
hey buddy just wanted to let you kno there's something in psychology and economics called the 'sunk cost falacy,' which is incorrectly assuming that it is best to continue persisting for a certain goal because of all the time and effort you already invested. Its almost always better to change your goal.
Article idea: Nice boys vs bad boys
I got it, I waited a long time for this. Thanks!
Thanks Jason!
Nice guys(pussies) vs Good guys (James Bond) vs Bad boys (tattooed biker)
It's a spectrum and every single man lies somewhere along it
Tembo1. I like your measurement scale.
Kill him. Everyone needs a little crazy.
Not really. Don't do that.
Or do. Whatever.
Let me know what happens! Ya fuck it I'm going to do it! I guess what's been holding me back is how my wingman tells me not to do it at school so we just stick to mall game. But I just realized that when I am 30 I am going to think to myself of all the things I could have done in high-school. However what I will restrict to school game is only going for girls I find attractive not having practice girls lol
I am a girl, and I have to disagree with a lot of this article. I love you guys, but this is just inaccurate. You're not in the friend zone because you waited too long. You're in the friend zone because that girl doesn't like you. "Friend zone" is such a misleading term. Its really a cop out. Every situation is different, but chances are you won't get any further with that girl. And a lot of that is because you all make it too blatantly obvious how badly you want her. I do agree with them on parts though- you'll never know unless you try, but srsly, if she's not interested, move on.
Y'all went balls deep on this one! Great article!
lol at this bitch who don't know what she talkin' about.
Good article, David X talks along similar lines which can be found if you do a youtube search..
Sounds like she gave you a bs excuse lol
hate how you guys are right.. lol. I talked to her and she said some things that made it a bit easier to move past her. I don't feel like wasting anymore time on her.
When you walk away from the friendship, do you tell them, "I wasn't interested in just being friends with you" or do you just drop contact?
I took my high school crush out (8 years later) and she rejected me on the basis she doesn't want to date anyone right now (just finalized her divorce at the begining of the year). So I asked her if she had fun tonight, she did. If she had fun the previous time, she did. And I got in my car without saying another word.
I feel as if saying anything at this point is irrelvant as I made my feeling clear during the date, of course ill move on and try elsewhere. But like I said, I'm wondering if I should say anything about breaking ties with her.
There's another point though… There are some girls that are our friends and that we just want to fuck but don't want them as our girlfriends.
I'll tell something that is working very well for me:
When I'm hanging out with them I'm their friend, but I'm always sincere about how I think about them and keep provoking the girls saying I'm a good lover (or just that I am a sex machine – and they love it!). What happens: sometimes they call me just for sex, as they know I don't want nothing more than that. Also, because they know how is sex with me, they wing other girls for me telling how it was with them. It's just fantastic!
Of course it doesn't work with every, but it's good to have a lot of girl friends. For example: there's this one group of 7 girls I know that I'm really good friend with. I've fucked 5 of them and they wing me their friends. It's just about knowing how to lead and always be sincere.
LOL just remembered kong in one of the tips vids, "hi, you're watching simple pickup and if you're a girl…. GET THE FUCK OUTTA HERE!"
simple pickup don't be afraid to post articles that might hurt us. a lot of us look up to you, and frankly I'd rather here stuff like this from people who actually know what they're talking about than some dumb bitch. thanks for the help!
Sadly I think some people will forever be in the friend zone.. I've twO friends, both of them were confessed by the best friends which is a guy. But my girls rejected them and they remained as best friends. I pity the guys because I know they still like the girls.
So i have a girlfriend who was introduced to me by a girl friend. this girl friend of mine is in and out of my life and i was fine just being friends. So i havent seen this girl in three months, then she contacts me we chill at her place with a few of her friends and now weve been spending alot of time together and less time with my actual girlfriend. I really like her because we have history. Should i tell her what i feel to put the ball on her court or will i look like an asshole because it like cheating on my girlfriend?
I really like this girl. I have her number and stuff, but I don't know if she likes me. My main question is, how can I get her to like me, even if I'm ugly as crap.
Most girls don't know what they want… They think they do, but mostly fall for the opposite… Above is a very good example…
As simple pickup says. Girls friendzone guys who either takes to long, or has zero sexual attraction and escalation.
So guys… Be touchy, and be confident about it. It takes no more than 2 hours of being together before most girls are ready to lay with you, if you're doing it right.
Simple pickup… I like you guys.. Too bad we can't go picking up girls together..
I believe the whole point of Pick Up is to show it's less about looks, even to "shallow" girls who say they only care about looks, and it's more about your confidence. Act like you feel like you really are the best looking thing out there, and you will have more success. As for the girls that are truly shallow, forget about themmm… do you reallly wanna be with them anyways?
I will have to say you are wrong about how if she rejects you the friendship ends.I have a girl friend that i now consider a sister to me and would kill anyone who hurts her and i know she would do the same for me.i even got her back together with her boyfriend.And it all started after i tried to become something more 4 years ago.Before that i was just hitting on her whenever i saw her but due to false info i didn't know she had a bf at the time.
Thats why you should just be friends with benefits..:) jk jk or am i?? great article though
Ha, what a chump.
Tell her, Dude. Say that you don't feel a real connection with your current girlfriend and that your gal friend feels much more in tune with who you are and what not.
I have this special friend (girl) for whom I have strong feelings for, and she knows this, but she's doesn't seem to be up for a relationship because she's stuck in a mindset, thinking all guys are the same because her ex-bf was a douchebag. So my question is how do I get her out of that mindset and ease her into more of a open view where I can ask her out??
Point #1 and #2 applies..
just always assume a girl likes you, and if she ends up rejecting you big whoop move on its not the end of the world.
i did the thing where it didn't work out and I walked away… I feel like shit though…
I think the best advice you guys have given me is making your intentions clear as soon as possible, It's so awesome in University cause it's basically an easy-mode set up with every girl you meet, and you can just spam around making "potential" connections and partnerships with multiple girls.
3 weeks in and i got a steady girlfriend (i haven't been in a relationship for 5 years)
The biggest thing I learnt from simple pickup…
I'm doing it all completely wrong
High risk, high reward. It'll take time, as long as your intentions are clear. If they change & you just want to honestly be ONLY friends, then be friends. But, if you have secret feelings for her – well that's when you have to make a decision.
While I agree with Mrstriations's point, I don't think using the word "bitch" is the best idea. Make us sound kinda misogynistic.
*Makes
The thing i would suggest- change your clothing style. Having a role model with similar traits (chin, body build, skin color, hair color) really helps. I used to wear t-shirts, hoodies, jeans and have medium-lenght hair. Started wearing shirts(button up's), same jeans and sneakers and short hair. I started to feel better after about two weeks as i felt it completed my image. I like seeing myself in the miror now… LOL! And because of that- liking myself raised my "i don't give a shit", "people don't see me like that anymore" mindset. Good things started happening.
Currently in a "more than friends" (buddies) phase with like 3 different girls (out of 0 prior to my change), but what i realised was that i need to use more touching (Kino in other parts of the pickup community). Shyness keeps on torchuring me from the past, but slowly i begin to realise how to open up and help other people open up to you (not only girls and not only in pickup!!!).
How's that for a "i'll post a quick reply"???
I've been in your shoes, but with all this change i haven't still reached my goal. But at least i know the direction where to advance. I'll keep a lookout on this thred, so ask questions if you want.
"like how you bite your toenails" shit.. you are good!!
"I like how you bite your toenails" hahahaha!
what if you didn't like a girl that way at first, but developed feelings? you couldn't make your intentions clear at first if you had none.
You actually made me more scared to tell her I like her cuz now it seems I'll completely lose her if she doesn't feel the same way XD
now me and my best friend (thats a girl not a guy… not that i have anything agianst gays) are in a relationship now!!! GOOD SHIT GUYS
I want to pick up girls but I just can't forget the one I'm in love with… I was finally ready but she just texted me and now I feel myself like a pussy again. We can't even be in a relationship, because she studies in a another city. Maybe should I met her, tell her everything and when she rejects me, just say her "So we should stop texting" or something like that? We are actually in a kind of awkward friendship because she was also in love with me before, but she doesn't still and I am…
By the way, sorry for my English, I live in french speaking country.
Ps: I will try to get some numbers in a few days, maybe if I hang out with others girls, I will todly forget that bitch…
I told her I liked her but she just wants to be friends and I don't really want to lose her and i've known her for like 2 years and we are really close do I just stop being her friend? I mean I don't really want to be her friend but I don't want to lose
Next Time I see my "friend" I'm gonna do that, by the way, nice post!
bro its normal to feel scared of losing her.
but honestly yoo look like a chump if you continue being there for her after she rejected your proposal.
you dont know wat you have until its gone. show her wat your worth.
I really like this girl who i am best friends with for 2 years because she dated my best friend but they barley talk anymore because he has a gf that wont let him. Is it fuked up to tell her how i feel about her?
NEVER DATE A BRO's EX
There is this new girl in my grade and I kinda you know was nice to her and stuff even walked her to her locker and bus and what not, but here's the thing I'm like really shy when it comes to telling her shes cute or hot or whatever. Every since that day that I've walked her to her class and locker everyone's been talking about how we were dating and its nothing to be embarrassed about its just that i didn't want her to find put and ruin what we could have I'm not good at talking to girls and another problem is I'm always picked on because of my height and religion and its annoying.Ive watched your videos on youtube and i was hoping if you can pass that knowledge you have on to me.
My email is [email protected] I really hope you can help me find a way to make her my girlfriend.
I called this girl I been into for a few this morning and asked her out formerly the way a man should and she agreed. Then she called a few hours later bullshitting and says how happy she is and no guy interests her at the moment. I'm good with girls, don't usually have to try that much. I'm into the challenge of getting her and she's so worth it. But I know she's throwing some curves and came out and told me early on I wasn't her type, which i took as game on. And we ended up fooling around like a weeks later. I dig our friendship but definitely want more. And I think she likes me chasing her. Basically is she into me or just likes being chased.
Bros before hoes playa
Tijd voor mij om krijgen wat je nodig
1. Ik wil mijn ex terug
2. Ik wil beroemd worden
3. Ik wil een beroemdheid te zijn
4. Ik wil mijn bedrijf om overmatig te groeien
5. Ik wil rijk worden
6. Ik wil academisch te zijn eervol goed.
Zijn uw kans om alles wat u wenst te bereiken, te herstellen uw liefde terug en trots met de hulp van gezalfde DR GREAT3.
op [email protected].
Uw beste tijd is nu ….. niet te missen.
Why not?
I've been friends with this girl for years. We have always been in relationships but were both single know and we have kissed a few times while being out drinking and having fun. I'm just curious if she likes me and is it worth taking a chance on cause I don't want to lose a good friend.
where can i find the exclusive tips agian
grow a penis and some balls and tell her man, JUST DO IT
theres this girl that says she likes me but then goes off and weeks go by ad then she says she dosent i am in the 9th grade and shes in 8th shes really beautiful and i need help we have met twice in real life and txt everyday she means so much to me but were just friends shes likes me and think we have a chance together but i am afraid i am not her first how do i get her to like me make me first we just went 3 weeks without talking and it killed me and then she txted me today and i felt so good but she showed no emotion towards me idk please help email is [email protected]
As they said: either you like her as a friend, or you like her as more. There's nothing in between. You're clearly not happy having her as just a friend, so if she rejects you, what more reason is there to stick around? If she rejected you, that's a hard no. Maybe that's why you're afraid to lose that connection? Because you feel that even a 'no' really means 'maybe'? You have to rid yourself of that mentality. Only in movies do girls all of a sudden realize that their best guy friend is actually their ideal boyfriend. No means no.
Hey guys, thanks for this post. I used to never have a problem with stating my intentions, but lately, for some reason, I've been avoiding being direct. This post was a good kick in the ass.
Do you actually not have feelings for her, or are you just trying to convince yourself that you don't? Based on this post, you never state anywhere that you stopped wanting to go out with her. What it sounds like is you're good-guy-gregging until she notices that you're the one for her. Again, I might be wrong (I often am), but really consider why you're being friends. Also, have you had a girl since then?
Kaylee, your so-called 'disagreeing' is actually in line with EVERYTHING that was said in the article. You said, "You're not in the friend zone because you waited to long", and a "A lot of that is because you all make it too blatantly obvious how badly you want her". Those two things are exactly the same. Making it painfully obvious how much a guy likes a girl (without asking her out), is the same thing as waiting too long.
I'd also like to apologize on behalf of some of your other responders. I think they completely missed the part where simple pick up is supposed to be "good guy game",
The concept is simple:
Before you confessed to her, she was above you. You put her on a pedestal far above your reach. When you confessed to her and slept with her, you took her off the pedestal and put her on the same level as you. Friendships can only happen between equals.
Whether you were only interested in getting in her pants has nothing to do whether you confessed to her. If you were only interested in having a relationship isn't changed by the fact that you told her. If you stick around her, she's always going to wonder if you're trying to get in her pants, or making some kind of play to be in a relationship with her. You will NEVER be equals (unless you manage to sleep with her), and thus will never be true friends.
It won't turn into a cliche, because they're just explaining human nature. You shouldn't use the lines they give you directly and all the time. They're just meant to be starting points.
Ask your bro if he is ok with it. If he is, just f*** tell her.
I took my friend out on a date today, we flirted a good amount. I was meant to give her the "I don't want to be just friends anymore" talk but we organised another date this tuesday. I'm going to try the way you suggest Jason, whether it will work or not I don't know, but I have faith in your advice.
This is really good advice. I wish i saw it sooner, cause i already made my move on this girl and did EVERYTHING WRONG. I told her that i didnt want an answer right away and that i was cool with being friends. PUSSY. That night i came home and joined Project GO! Life has gotten better since then. Thanks SP!
This is really good advice. I wish i saw it sooner, cause i already made my move on this girl and did EVERYTHING WRONG. I told her that i didnt want an answer right away and that i was cool with being friends. PUSSY. That night i came home and joined Project GO! Life has gotten better since then. Thanks SP!
I AM AWARE OF ALL THE ABOVE BUT SHE ALREADY HAS AN ASSHOLE BOYFRIEND, WHAT TO DO IN THIS CASE?
Stop seeing her. Get over her. Move on with your life. I was in kinda the same situation. I spent over 2 months being depressed and confussed about what I should do. When I finally "Left her life" I feelt better and 2 weeks went by and I totally forgot about her.
Move on, doesn't matter if you think she's "The right one"
try to get her if u cant go find other chicks they are out there and u can get the nines and tens if u know how even if ur ugly dont have big muscles, money, or giant manhood, or suck at sports
And rightfully so; these guys fixed my social life. I was thinking about girls all wrong and let so many opportunities get away before they showed me how to do it.
my girlfriend of 2 years cheated on me with her room mate, and wants to be just friends, i tried to break up her current relationship, kinda betrayed her trust too and now she's ignoring me, she was my first gf and, since when i got together with her i'm at a worse position in my life, i don't know what i want with her but i can't get her out of my mind
There was this girl I was infatuated with, and I told her I liked her because we were friends for a while, but it didn't go too well. And she gave me her reason and I was fine with it at first, until I went back and thought over what she meant, and there were so many loose ends. I understand that she tried to put me down nicely, and not give me a direct 'no', but I personally, would have preferred that. Recently, I tried to talk to her a couple times, but she just ignored my messages, at this point is she still worth it?
No drew been there you're just going to end up hurt when she starts dating another and she doesnt give you closure. On to the next one
Fuck nah, man. She ain't worth your time. I've did this before and spent too damn long on a girl. Just move on there's plenty of other girls out there. Delete her number, she ain't worth a dime.
Really good article. I just gotta question though as I really could use some help with it, how do you apply this over a long distance "friend zone"?
is it really bad to confess to a girl 2 times o.o its really hard… cause she did hold my hand few times but yet she always mentions that we just friends( this happened after the confession.. after i left the city for few months). I basically changed my style n my mindset unintentionally not cause i wanted to get out of friend zone or nething.
I was surprised she went ahead and held my hand. I didnt really do nething… the thing that really confuses me the most is that she keeps saying we're bestfriends… which is making me not do much… so plz tell me is it gg(over).. or just chill… or go take her down to the ground?
If u wanna get anywhere with her u gotta see her. Scheduel a time to hangout with her and stop relying on text to build attraction.
What do u mean curious if she likes you? You should know if she likes you or not. If u dont brush up on detecting IOI's (indicators of interest)
Well she's a new girl and I became her good friend. I usually tell her how attractive she is and shit but I dont know what else to do. We've be ome good friends, sadly, am I friend zoned or do I still have a chance ?
She might be leading you on, ive been in your situation, think of her as a pet fish. If u get too emotionally attached your heart is gonna be broken… SO DONT check out simple pickup's video on how to make her CHASE YOU
I'm gonna hang out with this girl on Friday and tell her the deal when we hang out. We've been going back and forth for two years, making out occasionally but no sex. I'm gonna try recording it on my phone, and whether it turns out good or bad, I'm gonna send it to you guys and you can decide to post it up on the site or not. I appreciate this post
Ok I'm in the ninth grade and I have a major issue I moved to this highschool about a year in a half ago and this girl lined me and I didn't know so I liked he'd friend and nothing happend so this semester comes up and I ended up lkkeing her so we went to a football game and ended up trying weed together for the first time for both of us and nothing happend then we hung out at school for a good three months and her friend I liked her "I know big mistake" but I was too slow and she kissed another guy and it broke my heart but I have a problem she was my first love. HELP MEEEE!!! what do I do
damn i could of used this advice like 3 years ago. FUUUUUUUCKK
Hey so I have this best friend that I super like anndd well we Text all the time and at time I do flirt with her a lil bit but I don't really know if she's got the message and I'm planning to ask her out on a date, just the both of us and I'm still undecided whether I should tell her my feelings for her because if its not mutual it'll screw up our 7year friendship. What should I do?? :/
hi, i got a problem with twins. one of them is angy cuz a talk with her sister. now she wont talk with me, what should i do? plzz help!
Hi Daniel Dongyeob Kim ;D Look…i am sure u can escalate your relationship easily, it seems that she likes you a lot and grabbed your hand. Normally the guy does all this "Escalation-work" but it´s a good sign that she already did a "small-part" for you. I know that u are confused about her saying "we´re bestfriends" but i would see it as that: Many girls hide behind a wall which is – in this case- saying you two are just friends. In most cases girls want the men to dominate and do all the work, in her mind (i am sure) she knows that this can escalate as a "love" / "boyfriend girlfriend" thing or what u like to make out of the relationship. Many girls wanna give the responsibility to the men so they can say like "it was the men that escalated, it´s his "fault", (which isnt a fault at all for her!) he did it all, i couldn´t do anything. It´s like that because girls feel better with that kinda mindset, they declare things as OK for them, so they have a better feeling and a quiet conscience : ) so don´t worry about her saying u are just friends, if she grabbed your hand the times before, i am sure there was a good connection between u and the girl, u can escalate this attraction by doing kino and forget about your bitch butterflies, or nervousness. Girls test guys if they know what they want, and if u really want her , then get out of the "almost friend-zone" right now, then the later u do, the harder it gets ;D girls want guys who know what they want! u can do it BRO!
greets
what about for girls who rkn your creepy immediately u state your true intention? i literally did that and a few seemed to be shocked, but some actually got scared coz i was straight foward
im so sorry, but if u tried and i hasnt worked, walk away, thats it, theres is no other option, u cant load another save in life, the shit is done, u have to get over it.
mä,lm
Hello Guys
My question i think its a little different from this one… You see I am in high school. my problem is not with the friend zone is that i am approaching many girls at the same time and last time i did they found out about each other and for me being a player. Do you have any advice to give me about this ?
I also see that some girls like the fact of being a player or they like adventures and want to try me xD, but most of them Do Not. Do u think i have to go for the outgoing ones (slutty) or this is not important ?
Keep it up !!
hello dave i have been to the same situation before. first of all you SHOULD NOT tell her your feelings imediately without knowing if she feel the same or you will screw up everything. as about the date you could use it in your favor and letting her know that you are not seeing her like a friend anymore BUT not making any move. this will make her think about you. as soon as you see that she is changing too and gives you the green light than GO FOR IT. but if she DONT just move on and keep her as friend you cant do nothing about it…
talk to them both and fuck them both xD just kidding bro but if they are outgoing my statement is true… if not just move on
I've been in the friend zone for three years. As soon as I started caring about what I wanted she reacted and started chasing me. Grow some fucking balls and show her that you want things your way not hers. If she doesn't want anything more than friends move the fuck on with your life and find a girl who will want something.
I GOT out of the friendzoneee!!!
I have a problem there's a girl that I think is hot and I want to ask out we have been talking but not that much and we haven't hung out inside or outside of school, plus she's almost always with her friends and never by herself I just don't know what to do. Also there's this girl on my bus who doesn't talk to anyone but I see her a lunch with her friends, I want to go up to her and talk but every time I try I get worried about what my friends might do.
What if the situation where it was too late occurs because when you met you met another girl too and started dating other said girl. And made girl your best friend. Best friend girl dates another guy too. This is 3 years ago. I break up with girl I was with and she is still with her bf and we're still best friends. She cheats on him for me. Breaks up with him but she was against cheating so we didn't talk much. Now we're back to being best friends but I can't even deny that I love this girl? Now she is interested in another guy. I can still go around and sleep with other girls which is fine and I don't believe in relationships at this age lasting long. Should I try for her now while she's is really into another guy or not at all? Or wait? Or just re-friendzone her again?
well im in highschool and one of my friends (who i like) seems like she likes me back, but at times it seems like she's ignoring me or sending me mixed signals.
let her go. trust me your only in HS go out and meet an bunch of girls
I'm too pussy to approach girls I don't even try. I am too. Pussy cuz I don't go for what I want like getting in shape getting hot girls straight As in my classes. I don't know know how I'm going to live. I don't even try
For the girl on the bus all i can suggest is go up to her and just say " your face i like that " and she might giggle or she'll smile and it'll start from there.
I've got a problem. I recently met this girl who I started liking. After some time I told her elder sister that I like her. Her elder sister just asked me to get over her! I think I might also be in the friend zone with her. What should I do? Her elder sister also said "you've just met her a couple of times and you like her". Well i didn't say that I'm madly in love with her sister did I! Please help me !
Why in the world would you ask her sister about it …..?
Dont aproach too often at school. Maybe once a week. Get the # and turn it into a date and go from there
If one twin doesnt like you just focus on the one that does is it really that hard
Heyho ;D does it matter that u told her sister that u like her? NO! fuck her sister^^ well don´t actually fuck her… u know what i mean. Just don´t think about what other people say, U like a girl, and nothing is wrong with that! You´ve met her a couple of times and thats enough?…sometimes u know in the first minutes if a person is NICE or NOT! But one thing u could make better, tell the girl u LIKE your intentions, not her sister. I think if the girl still wants to meet u again, she will decide on her own, an not her "bigger" sister. So don´t worry man, and don´t fear about your intentions. Btw. remind of Jesse, Kong, and Jason, THEY kiss girls sometimes when they met about 5minutes ago! And this following sentence which she is thinking of, and MANY other people think of is wrong :: "U have to be friends before u can be lover". BLOW that SHIT out of YA MIND! ;D And try to tell her your intentions fast (not on a rought way to pull ur penis out etc ;D) , otherwise u will be friend-zoned very fast ;D Good LUCK BRO! U can DO it! greets
hey thanks man! i guess ill give it a couple of weeks and then ask her to meet me!
Hi, I like a girl but I think she's way out of my league. I dont know her for very long and she's in my group at school. She's really out going and I'm not, Im fat and Im not really on her level, im not a complete dork, but im very bad socially speeking. I know I sound like a pussy and I think that is a pretty accurate statement haha. But I wonder if I should just let her go, or try my luck. And what is your advice on finding girls, is it smart to look around at school or sould you try finding them outside of school?
Look man, you have to go for it…. You know, there's nothing to loose, you either loose a fake "friend" or you win the jackpot that is a date. Go for it champ, you can do it.
Hi Guys
theres a girl ive met. shes pretty cute attractive etc.
i went out with some friends and met her cause a friend was taking her with us. we talked, she gave me her number and we texted every day. was flirting with her we skyped and after a while i thought : should i ask her out? cause she was comfortable with the way i was flirting with her. so i asked her out and she accepted it. spent a whole evening with her and shuffeld her around too. we were at a bar, was having dinner and went to a house party.
but then after a few days she told me that she just wanna be friends, even if she knew that i liked her.
so what shall i do?
Alright so Just after watching these guys in their youtube video, has gave me motivation a lot more motivation. So, The other day i had to get some new jeans and i went to the mall. I was telling myself "I have to go up to some strangers and try to get there number". So I was going up to the first potential girl, i had the case of the bitch butterflies and i didn't approach her. So after failing there i told myself " Brandon what the fuck are you doing, man the fuck up telling myself you can do this" i approach the next girl, ( might i tell you still having the bitch butterflies) i approach her, after i go up to her, i do get rejected and same with the second girl, and let me tell you for those who have the bitch butterflies just get passed that first girl. If you can just get past that first girls it becomes easier. The second girl i didn't even hesitate ( still a little nervous), because i went in a little more confident even though i got rejected from the the first girl ( Both Girls saying they have boyfriends) To be Honest, my intentions wernt really to hook up with these girls. It more for to gain confidence. That being said, i still myself am in a dilemma. I really dont even know how to approach either. I've never been attracted to my sisters friend before, and i started texting her before like a Beta Bitch or a chump either way, until i saw your txting video as well as some others so start making me look confident and make funny jokes some being in a sexual type manner, but after all the texting i dont know what i should do to take the next step because she is my sisters best friend, i know i need to man up but was trying to get some advice or any tips before i tell her how i really feel about her, cause i dont want to be in the friendzone!
Then become a boss. It's all in your head, these things that are stopping you. I know. I was there. Now I'm living with true confidence, trying every day to be in God mode. It's possible. It's hard at first, but you can do it! You've got everyone's support on this site, including mine. Go for it!
Like the article says, love or nothing more
you cant have that kind of thinking. the biggest thing everyone has always stressed about was confidence. you cant be confident if you are doubting yourself, putting her as "out of your league" and thinking the size of your body saps some of your mojo away. if these ideas still bother you to some extent, do things to help gain confidence. if you think you're bad at socializing, figure out what the problem is and practice it. think about topics people can easily chit chat about. dont always think too much about "oh man, how can i keep this conversation going" because you'll spend too much time thinking, and not enough time actually formulating words. if you think being fat is a problem (and im not saying it is or isnt) and if you dont feel confident in the "vessel that represents you", then go exercise and start feeling good about yourself. i would suggest outside of school, because you are less likely to care about what people think if they arent people you might see on the same school grounds. in conclusion, just do something, anything. most people seek advice only to gain knowledge, but you need to gain experience too. nothing is gonna happen unless you start to make things happen. good luck to you, and i hope find the answers you are looking for =)
thnkss for the awesome advice broo!
one thing tho.. do i still keep flirtingg???
hell yeah
Try for it my Friend , i used to hate socially speaking out in school groups when a girl i liked was around , its hard but you got to try make a move just get talking to her for a while about what ever shes intrested it , once your content make a move , the worst thing that can happen is she can say i just want to be friends if so it wasnt ment to be , there's plenty of girls for every one out there
Hope this helped best of luck 
Well after watching the videos, reading this etc etc.
Today i told her how i feel, i got rejected…
She told me, "just be friends". Of course i answered "NO".
I dont know what to do know, i still feel something for her.
think about psychology. women want things they can't have. maybe she liked you to begin with. maybe even a lot. if it's a lot and you walk away now and stop the contact things might turn and she's the one who is after you. give it a try. don't be a bitch
The girl i like is in my class but she has a boyfriend in other college sometimes she give you hints she likes me too .she only told me(not even her girl friends) about her boyfriend .. does that mean i am in friendzone or she wants me to do something about it??but on the other she also said that she likes her boyfriend very much ….i really like her and dont know what to do plz help.
So, I have a girl friend. She's been my classmate for 4th year. We've never talked to each other since now. On X-max I gave her a gift. A little book of jokes and a letter, where I told her that I'm really glad we've stopped ignore each other. I don't wanna explain why did I do that. I had a reason and that time I didn't want her as a girlfriend. I just told her that I appreciate the person she is. Since then we've hanged out twice – just two of us – and many times with the others. And then I realized that I actually want her. It seems that she wants to be with me. She still write me an SMS or once she told me taht she wants to lose weight so we should go for run sometimes – I agreed. (but here's like 200m of a fucking snow, so we had to cancel it…but we went for a walk at least). So, my point is, next time, when we will be together (She promised me we will make a snowman
), should I just told her that I like her ? I think she won't refuse me directly because she's too nice to do that. And I think that I didn't flirt with her enough, so maybe I didn't wake that feelings to me in her yet, I think she thinks I want to be with her just friend. She didn't get "the message". Sooo should I try to send her more signals and THEN tell it, or just tell it right now (ok, not right now, but next time…) Thank you guys for answer 
She's attracted to you, but if you act to nice she will friendzone you. She told you about this bf, ( he probably doesn't exist) and even if he is a badass she wants to see if you've got the balls to step up and take her. Invite her over, just you and her. Let her know that you don't care that maybe you two could do better. If she says no, then walk away. Don't waste your time. You only have so much.
So yeah I'm currently in the friendzone as well. I'm in high school Ave and a senior but I like this cute girl whose a sophomore. But one of my friends likes her too, sees her all the time, and asks me about her. Me and the cute girl talk a lot, I'm a little flirty but I also get to know her a little bit. I'm trying to get out the friendzone but I don't know where to start. I don't see her throughout the day and am afraid to ask her out
I suggest you tell her before another guy with MORE Confidence walks in and takes her away.
Why in a couple of weeks? come on bro…we dont know if we will wake up tomorrow….so i suggest u do it now.
Omg if she cheated on her BF with you….I think that speaks for itself…go Claim what is yours.
Omg if she cheated on her BF with you….I think that speaks for itself…go Claim what is yours.
you cant just want it you have to do it take the time to study and do your work and also find enough time to work out a little just by running or doing pushups and eating right and after you gain some confidence you can go get some hot girls
Ive been talking to this girl for a few months on and off then a few weeks ago I talked to her for a week straight every single night. One time it got up to a 7 hour phone conversation. Shes on and off with her boyfriend and I guess cause they dated for 2 years and she lost her virginity to him. Anyways we talked for a week every night 3+ hour conversations and then on new years she fucked up and did pretty much a one night stand cause she was really drunk. She called me the next night crying and shit but I was just told her I dont know what to say like I was speechless when I found out. After that night we havent talked since and I cant get her off my fucking mind please help
Got rejected after confessing, but in a really nice way. She even said she loved me (as she always does) been friends a year now. Since her rejection we haven't been talking much, only occasionally. Taking ur advice that I should probably move on & stop wasting my time. But I can't let her go completely as u guys wanted. She honestly means too much to me. But I don't invest as much time in her though. Should I completely lock her off?
(kong)
Chica, the only way you'll find out is by ASKING her. Do it right away when you see her on Tuesday. You got this.
Tell here you think she is cute/sexy/adorable and you would like to take her out for a drink
Well, the only way you can get out of the friendzone is to man up. Follow what the guys were saying in this post. Go and tell her how you're feeling. Tell her she's cute and ask her out.
Imho, what you should do is get on the horse and go meet new girls. You'll get over her in no time. Life's too short!
my thoughts exactly ↑↑↑↑
Man, the best way of getting out of the friendzone, is to start hitting on her friends (they have to be hot obviously).
very true!!!!
fuc*ing re*ard, go away.
So I am stuck between having a nice friendship or choosing to ask her out on a date. I expect that it'll be awkward if she rejects me, because the problem is that I will keep seeing this girl almost every single day throughout the next few years, as we are in a fixed group in my college.
So think about this:
1) I ask her out, it either works out or it doesn't, we still see each other either in the awkward way or another. 2) I don't ask her out, we still maintain a good friendship.
The problem with number 2 is that the relationship has become worse over the past few months since I've been trying to sorta lock her out in order to meet new girls, and I realized either way the relationship might go downhill.
Main point is, I don't want to ruin this friendship even if I do end up confessing to her in the end. I'm lost.
I'd appreciate any advice from all bro's
Guys, what do you think 'bout my situation: I've been going out with this girl I like for 3 times now, tomorrow will be 4th, but there were large pauses between our dates; like month or more. The situation is somewhat weird. Last time we went out was few days before new year, slightly less than one month ago, and we really had a great time, we were sitting close to 4 hours in this coffee bar. Of course, I did nothing, even though there were some signs that she likes me (she was touching me from time to time, and smiling quite a lot and we were sitting real close to one another). I was a big big vagina, like Kong says. So, what happened next was my sms to wish her all the best at new year's eve and she replied with something like this: "Thank you very much my dear Friend, wish u all the best as well bla bla bla…" and she literally wrote big letter "F" :/ So, now 20+ days after that (we haven't heard from each other in between) she says hi on fb and after short conv. I ask her to go out with me saying "I miss you" and she agrees. So the date is tomorrow and I really wanna try and make it work, but there comes another problem lol. I never kissed a girl with a tongue. So is it ok if i tell her that, or just try and kiss her w/o tongue. And if anyone can give me some more advice, would be much appreciated. PS Kong, Jason and Jesse; U guys rock! Ty all, sorry for a big post
Same thing here bro'. I wrote a big post right after you, and this girl I was mentioning is a real sweetheart and I would like to stay friends with her even if she rejects me tomorrow. Whatever happens, I think I will be ready; if she denies me (Dota 2 comes to my mind instantly ^^) I will be cool about it, but it will be somewhat weird… Don't really know, we'll see what happens.
Awesome bro ^^ I'd ask her on a date too but currently she's in a mid-semester vacation. Let me know how it goes and you've got this!
We actualy didn't hang out tonight, coz I have this awfull flu and i canceled it for now. I was thinking all day long should I do this or not, but ended up canceling coz I realized it would be really bad if I came on a date and started coughing loudly like i do. Also my nose is blocked, breathing on mouth explicitly
I'll post here again and let you know what happened after we eventually go out. Good luck too u to mate!
Do not tell her that you never kissed or youll be seeing like a big wuss. Just go with the flow. The first time i kissed a gurl, I didnt not know how to do it, so I just went it.
Well she accepted your date so you obviously did something wrong on the date. Figure out where you went wron and learn from your mistakes
Hey all. There is currently two girls in my life that I am thinking a lot about…
They are in the same class, but I met them in two different ways.
The first I met at a party, we made out and things were great (second base, T.H.A.N.K you SP!). We went out on two dates, but then she suddenly stopped talking to me. I've been told the reason was because I seemed very unsure about what I wanted… It's been about a month since we have hung out togheter now…
The second girl I spontaneously invited over to my place. We have hung out a bit and she is great. She has an awesome personality and all. What I am afraid of is that if I decide to go for this girl, she will question my intentions because of the first one… I feel really confused about what I should do. I really like the first one AND the second one…
Anything will help!
Thanks players!
Hey guys – can i request a first dates video/article? You guys have taught me everything i know about picking up girls and watching you has certainly helped but so far i've felt like im on my own when it comes to dating. I just went on my first date ever last night and it before it i was scared out of my mind.
Tips on how to go from casual 'about me' kind of conversation to more flirty/seductive conversation would be cool. We talked constantly for 3 hours over a few drinks but i was so uncomfortable with the situation that i barely had any physical contact with her etc. For all i know i'm friend zoned now lol.
stop with the jesus shit
I have a question. So I've been "a really good friend" to this girl for months and I was completely indirect when talking to her. After I told her I like her she said she thought of me as a really good friend. My question is: how do I go about being direct with her? Wouldn't it be awkward since she said she thinks of me as a friend?
What if you broke up with a girl, & she says she just wants to be friends? I have to see this girl on a regular basis as well (about three times a week) since we're in the same organization on my campus, which is also somewhat tricky. What do you recommend? Just feeling it out & not jumping in too fast?
I get friends but once they get to know me ( Boring person ) I become a loner again. Same with girls, My personality is just that mr nice guy who doesn't know how to be fun. Please help me with this
you should watch a lot of comedy it has helped me a lot on the being a fun guy part
I don't mean being a funny person I meant being fun to be with. Like you're excited to be with me and that you look forward to seeing me again. That's what kind of person I want to be.
I have aspergers and social anxiety. Comes off really awkward in social situation. I tried to be assertive and I tried Mr. nice guy both don't work. Help me
So I have a situation too. Going through girls left and right since my divorce. But two days ago I was talking to my friend. Who was an ex coworker. We used to flirt alot and we both knew there was something there. I was just married at the time and couldn't hook up wit her. So now she asked me out. Of course I couldn't go on the night she asked so I told her in a couple of days she agreed. I'm pretty sure she still likes me but I am concerned cause we were in the friend zone for the past five years. She seemed pretty excited bout it so I'm thinking yesss!! This is actually the girl of my dreams. So imma make my move tonite. Hopefully it works if not I tried. My point is quit being such a big pussy. If u see something u like go for it. And all the bullshit that people talk bout when they first meet we already did. So she knows me and what type of person I am. Not to tute my own horn but I'm quite the player and am quite charming. I once made a girl cum twice through her pants and she left the house stumbling. She text me the next day and said I was amazing and apologized for not making me cum. She was on the rag so
We couldn't have sex so she gave me bj that was horrible. But like I said quit being a pussy. And you've never French kissed. Damn!! Here's some pointers. Don't use ur tongue to roughly. When u do try and tongue her do it gently. Loosen ur tongue.
Move on there's plenty of fish in the sea. Obviously it's never gonna happen. I was like u too before. But we live and we learn. Don't get caught up on one girl. And if u do just make sure u tell her how u feel. Sometimes their waiting to hear that. But at the same time don't act to needy. Chicks don't like that shit. And All the talking ur doing sounds like you've been in the friend zone for quite some time. If u do want her that bad. Just start ignoring her and getting out more maybe see other chicks. She'll see u happy and start wondering why did I not want him. But be careful too. Don't ignore her too much. And maybe show some assertiveness. Show her that ur a man and not a needy teenager. Don't go telling her u love her either. Cause if its too soon u will get rejected. Make her desire u. Beware this doesn't work every time. Some chicks do like needy men. But those are the ones that are damaged goods and will take any attention from men they can get.
Be cool. but give her very limited attention. show her that you're fine without her, and she might even wanna get back with you. if that happens, do what you really wanna do. meaning if you don't wanna be with her, tell her that. be a man. there are many girls out there.
One thing that will help a lot: do something that you personally enjoy. if youre having fun, she'll have fun too and when shes having fun, you'll be more comfortable with touching her etc etc…. take her on another date. when you see her, give her a kiss on the cheek and take her hand, leading her to the car. do things like that. then afetr a sharing a goofd laugh, take her hands and tell her you're having a good time and you think shes cute and you cant hold back and just kiss her. you miss 100% of the shots you dont take
Go for both if you cant decide on one. Just dont let them figure out. Simple as that and try being more direct with your intentions
It would be awkward but it is something you have to push through, and it might even come across as sexual tension
Try developing some interests, like getting really into music or movies or try something social and physical like a sport – maybe if you're not into traditional sports try mountain climbing, whatever. Do interesting things and you will be an interesting person. Read. Not pickup stuff, read novels, philosophy, whatever interests you. Take an interest in current affairs, engage with the world. All this will help you become a more rounded person. Are you a teenager? If you are I really wouldn't worry about this very much, most of your insecurities will shed away with a few years on you!
ok guy my situation is as followed:
I met this girl at dance/club type event at a nationwide student association conference. That night i just wanted to party so let myself loose with some booz (thats just my way of getting loose). Sure enough, i start dancing confidently with girls, hitting on one after another. And then i saw this girl on the table, she immediately caught my eye and of course all my attention shifts to her. I compliment her loudly showing no signs of "pussy syndrome". We talked, we laugh, we danced and i even kissed her neck (thats what she told haha cuz my memory is fading lol) But thats when i found out that she's got a boyfriend. That night, i didnt take it any further, as my consciousness was slowly creeping back and stop any further actions. The next day, i talked to her. It was quite awkward since me being drunk, i couldnt recall as much as she could, but she took it with a sense of humor. Funny thing is i couldnt even get her number, she didnt give it to me. She didnt even have facebook. So we parted ways, only knowing each others names and that i gave her my number. Surprisingly enough, she wrote. Which imo is the obvious sign of interest. So we start chatting. From once a week to few times a week. From text messaging to calling. A month late she even came to visit me in my town, which is a 3 hour drive away from where she lives. We hung out at an work related dinner so it wasn't as intimate. Fast forward to 2 months later. We're at a stage we both admitted that we like each other, but since she told that her boyfriend and her have been together for almost 5 years, it gave me reason to believe she's on the verge of breaking up with him. So i waited. I kept talking to her. For hours. Once the most extreme has been talk almost 8 hours of a day. So the next part of the story is where it gets confusing. We agreed not to talk as much, since we both had exams coming up and to the both of us, academics is important, so we reduced the amount of talking to like once every 3/4 days. The other thing that bothers me is that her boyfriend moved in with her right around the time we stopped talking as much. Fast forward to after the exams. I thought we could go back to where we left off talking for hours like lovers. But she became really passive towards me to a point where she finally slipped what i feared. She told me: I consider u as a friend you know that? I was perplex. I dont know where it went wrong. I couldnt accept it. Next thing you know, we skyped because i wanted to get the situation straight. And its not like we're talking about this for the first time, we've brought this up a few times. And it always resulted in we'll see, give it time. So at the skype session, i laid everything on the table, spilled my guts and she still didnt give in. All she said was even if she was single, she wouldnt date me. So we agreed on not talking to each other, so i can move on. Of course i was heartbroken, i knew this would happen from the beginning. But still. I definitely not the best feeling to have your emotions toyed around with. And she even wrote me a day after we agreed on not talking to each other. I ignored her which wasnt easy at all but i felt it was the right decision.
So the question i have is as followed:
What is her intention? What did i do wrong? What should i do next?
**Oh and i failed to mention, that this girl is something special to me.
She has the type of personality that i'm looking for and consider wifey
material. She's attractive, funny, understands me, shares the same
values, i really feel the emotional connection with this girl. Having
said all that, it makes it even harder to move on, as i'm sure may of
you would suggest.
Thanks!
Number one is out of the picture now, so that problem is solved.Moving on to number two
Personal Reply: Not Important
You allowed yourself to get involved with someone of the opposite sex that was already in a relationship. That was your mistake.
Her intentions were to just have a friend…but also something new and exciting. 5 years of her boyfriend, I'm sure he likes her…loves her…whatever! But it's flattering to her to know other people still find her attractive. She just wanted to feel good about herself at your expense.
Let it go! You think she's the type of girl you want…but think back on how she had behaved with having a current lover! She was dishonest, selfish, and confused. You don't want someone who's having secret conversations with other guys that she's let kiss on her! That's hoodrat material! Not wifey!
Sorry, I posted my reply as an actual comment. You can read it above your post.
thx alot for the reply! It's refreshing to hear other people's perspective in a sober, non-filtered way. I will keep your advice in mind, and it will definitely help me in the moving on process as well as immunization from future prospects.
Cheers!
Btw. what you said about this being a mistake based on the fact that she had a boyfriend; I recently read this article on girlschase.com and it was quite eye opening when it comes to girls with boyfriends, when its ok to go for it, or when its not ok. I was able to recognize the mistake I made.. If only i had read the article before i met her…
I work with my best guy friend. We run a small business together & we spend a lot of time together when we work. (6 straight months at a time in the year) and are traveling through those months. Last summer we split a hotel room with other traveling friends and shared a bed. (this is not uncommon, I have slept next to him before) I woke up at some point to him in the night facing me holding/hugging me in bed.. He was adjusting himself this is how I woke up. I did not budge. Pretended to be asleep (I liked it! A lot) The next day nothing was said.
Earlier in the summer he expressed his concern for my then boyfriend at the time saying he felt bad that he was not getting enough attention from me with us traveling and working etc. And this was bothering him (He had a few drinks and was a bit upset-crying) I laughed this off telling him that he was a big boy and does not have the impression that we are going to run off together in the sunset. I asked him if he thought I had feelings for him (he said I might) I told him over and over Rest assured, I look at you like a brother! You are like my brother and I am your sister.
Now I feel like I was hiding some truth of how I felt. He is a pretty outgoing yet shy (with his feelings) guy. I am his only real close girlfriend plus we work together. He also once before all of these events last winter casually played this old 70's love song while we were hanging over last winter at his place working and then a month later told me to take my laptop into the shower listening to the same song when I asked him for some shower music (Gerry Rafferty's Right Down the Line) Coincidence? I think not.
We do share a love of music together? He has good taste in music.
I have not seen him in a few months and we just saw each other to do some Internet work. He lives in another city and I went to stay with him for a few days. It was good to see him after 4 months of no contact besides the phone however I feel we both needed a good break from each other because we are a lot alike and work together constantly in our season. I also turned down a couple of visits prior to this one. He actually seemed upset about it but does not show emotion too much. He looks at me sometimes with this intense deep look into both of my eyes and then at times my mouth. I cannot tell how he feels. When we said goodbye he was kind of stiff but initiated the hug. (he is not too touchy feely) I do not want to jeopardize our friendship/partnership. He is not in a relationship. I am 35 he is 28. I feel very close to him, but I am confused on how I feel and how he feels. We definitely have a close connection. I don't feel very sexual towards him however I do think he is beautiful and feel a true soul connection with him. I'm confused and rambling. What might he feel? Why does he look at me at times with those eyes? Why does he gaze down at my mouth? Or hug me while I slept that night? Or make me listen to a beautiful love song while taking a shower? I am confused. Should I talk to him or leave it alone?
No problem guy! I'm just glad you read my reply! I'm actually a female, and reading your story made me angry…yet I knew exactly where it was going. I've seen it happen before and girls that do that crap should be some forever! It's just a petty way to behave on account of their low self esteem. That's not the kind of girl you want! You don't want someone who can "commit" to a long term relationship, yet still feel the need to find satisfaction outside of that relationship. I don't know why she needed to feel any better about herself…but if I had to take a guess, she's just an attention whore! I say this because after 5 years, this guy she's with must be testing her well. Well enough for them to move in together. But she's selfish and a total attention whore! K, rant! I'm done! Best wishes…and try to remember that you are important! You're going to be VIP to someone deserving, and it probably won't take all this hard work and research to get that! Peace love and blessings
whaaaat?! your're a girl?? what a surprise! Who knew you could encounter girls on the simple pickup website! XD But thx again! Having a female perspective is even more valuable, since i get the guy's point of view a lot. May i ask why you're helping guys on this man dominate site?
Alright I feel kind of like a dumbass right now so I'm gonna look for advice here. I am in college and there's this BEAUTIFUL ( we'retalking 10 where as I'm a 4 or 5 on a good day, and that's probably being generous) girl in my class. We have had classes together for a long time now and once we joined a study group together and I found out we had a TON of things in common I asked her out. First to a movie( shot down) then to lunch ( success). Since last October ( I think?) we have texted on the phone a lot, I see her almost everyday and we have gone out for coffee and dinner several times now ( I actually just got back from). Now I really like and care about this girl, but she is very dedicated to her studies and she has put her partying days behind, but she has also gone through a lot of shitty break ups in the past and personal shit. I see two options in my future: continue being an asshole friend which will probably make me go insane after awhile ( don't want that!!) or confessing how I feel( which could lead to a disastrous failure). If I confess and things go south, I still have to be around this person for school related reasons for the next foreseeable future( and my torment wouldn't just end this semester). If I don't say anything I'm just lying to myself and eventually I know she will find someone. I was trying to go the " prove your worth" route but now I'm thinking that path leads to a dead end. So I guess the question would be is.. Do I stay as the friend/ fellow student, help her and try and be there for her when she is upset, and just be THAT guy and wait? Or the next time I study with her alone in the library/ go grab dinner actually tell her everything (albeit with dignity) of how I feel and why I care about her…with the risk of losing everything I have taken so long to build up. If I let this one get away….I don't know if I can come back from it( I now realize I have achieved the goal if sounding like a whiny idiot). Thanks for listening
There is only one Man who Will make you completely fulfilled, and that Man is Jesus. I promise that if you seek him and let him into your heart you will experience rest and Everlasting Joy. I pray that you will take this message to heart and experience TRUE Happiness in Jesus. God Bless. ps. Pray to Jesus about all of your problems so that he will help you like he has helped me always.
There is only one Man who Will make you completely fulfilled, and that Man is Jesus. I promise that if you seek him and let him into your heart you will experience rest and Everlasting Joy. I pray that you will take this message to heart and experience TRUE Happiness in Jesus. God Bless. ps. Pray to Jesus about all of your problems so that he will help you like he has helped me always.
I think you should keep going. For what i read, she is interested in you, but some women are fearful of breaking long-term relationships, theyre just scared of change. I think you should ask her if shes insecure. Good luck!
sorry bro have to disagree with u….. u let god into ur heart to feel complete and fulfilled,, jesus is a human being just like u and me but the only diff is that he had a message from god he is a prophet (a messenger)
Simple pickup is great! I've seen a lot that they do. So I was up looking for things that stupid girls say when they really like a guy, but he friend zones her! This popped up, and I was like, "Omgsimplepickupwebsite???" I read your comment because it was the first one I saw, and I was just being curious about what you guys had to say about this article. I'm not sure if these respond in timely manners, but it was urgent that you knew you were dealing with a lost cause and to not feel bad. Also, you had to know this coming from a girl, so you'd know it was true! I think simple pickup needs at least one girl to back their information. Just saying…
Jeremiah 29:11 and 1 John 5:13-16
He knows the plan…it's to proposer you and give you hope! Ask and you shall receive, but first believe! The word of God is full of promise and truth! Seek first the kingdom of God and all the desires of your heart shall be added to you!
This seems like a simple fear of the unknown! Just tell her already, before you drive yourself Insane with over analyzing. You can only get 2 answers; A favorable one and a not-so-favorable one. Your reaction to her response is what will make or break your future together. Do you get me? If you throw a fit, have a long face because she rejected you, she might not want to be your friend anymore. If you play it cool after rejection, she may admire how calm you remained and you could start impressing her. Oh…and once a girl knows you like her, then she rejects you, she automatically expects that your life revolves around her. If she rejects you and you seem alright with it…it will eat her up inside and she's going to be dying for your attention. This ultimately leads to her throwing herself at you!
But…on the upside, when she doesn't reject you…I guess you've always been a winner! In either situation, remain calm! It's just a girl! Just another human being. Don't freak out!
dude…this girl that's a good friend of mine..(i do sometimes kinda think about her in a sex related way,not much though)just kinda said let's date..when we were discussing about dating and all…and i just kinda got shocked..idk if she was serious or not…so i said im not looking for anything right now…gonna experiment a bit..but then i thought it won't be that bad..so kinda flirted with her…but now she doesn't message me at all… :/ wtf..im not so sure about dating here ..but i can try…but i think she isn't interested?or what…i don't understand…any help?
hello everyone, this is my situation. Any comments, insights or recommendations would be highly appreciated. Ok so I've known this girl for about 7 years ish. Her family and my family are very close. Almost as if we were family . Anyway, this girl and I had never really talked , she kept to her self and I kept to myself and it has only been until recently that we started talking and getting close. It all started when she broke up with her ex and she needed someone to support her. Being a good friend and all I comforted her the whole way. This happened about 5 months ago and she and the ex still talk and shes still no where near over him because she tends to talk about him a lot. Coincidentally, the same week she broke up with her ex , I broke up with mine. So we basically supported each other even to this day ,but I am super friend zoned. We do a lot of things together. We talk everyday and hang out every other day. I sort of have a plan in the future as to how to leave the friendzone but right now I am kinda stuck and dont know what to do. On a rating scale of attractiveness she is a 9 and I am around a 6. Im trying to really dramtically improve myself by going to the gym in hopes that she might find me attractive in the near future. Her dating record consists of model type guys. I find that we have a lot in common and we talk about everything. I really really like her and I have no idea what to do. I can provide more details if needed .Any advice would be useful
I think their answer would be that you should always have the "pick-up" mentality so there is no excuse in saying, "But I didn't like you at first but now I do." If anything, that still proves you're indecisive.
hi, I'm at uni and i called my friend from back home (a few hours drive away) , saying to her that i really like a her and wanted a relationship, she seemed interested but at the same time wanted to wait until easter when i come back home. what should i be doing right now and what should i do when i do come back home in order to get with her.
I know how you from personal experience , It's not cool. You have to tell her how you feel! If she accepts to date you, don't blow your chance. Flirt with her, show her a side she hasn't seen and I think this is a must "kiss her first date". However If she denies, as it says up there you have to leave! Seriously otherwise you will just be filled with frustration and jealousy when she finds a new guy. It wouldn't be fair on you and it wouldn't be fair on her, because you can't force someone to like you.She will use excuses like " I do like you, I just I don't want to lose you as a friend". Don't take that bull**** because If she liked you so much as a friend she wouldn't be scared to lose you because she should trust you. hope I helped
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Hey Anon01. You need
Hey Anon01. You need to flip the situation. You called HER, and you tell HER you need her. Throw this away. You're being honest, but she will see you as granted and do nothing for you. You're nothing special because you are for free. Keep a little more reserved, and make her want YOU. You can do this by, as the article says, showing her something new about yourself.
Don't beg for her, make her beg for you. And then you can say yes to her.
well i mean she kinda has a boyfriend (Last semester, don't know if she still has one) but it still seems like shes still somewhat into me into me, and she had a huge crush on me last year so….what do i do?
I need advice, I'm in high school and I do relatively good with girls, but there's this one, the kinda girl you still wanna text after you frap. Basically I really like her but she broke up with her ex about a month ago cause he cheated by apparently she still loves him or some shit. What the fuck should I do?
Hi im in a sticky situation. Ive been friends with this girl i really like for about 5 months we knew each other before but never really talk.We are boths 17 turning 18 in our final year of high school. We talk about every day ive kissed her and i constantly flirt with her but the other night we were talking sharing some secrets and she suddenly said that shes worry that she might hurt me and that she thinks of my as such a good friend but "not as a gay friend". I then told her how i felt and said i really do like her. She has been going through really hard times recently with anxiety and depression and some of her close friends ditching her so i have been there for her. I know this might have been the wrong thing to do but i really cred for her and didn't like seeing her upset. Anyway after i told her i liked her she said that she isnt cutting anything out for the future and that she just need a friends at this moment in her life me being a chump said i understand and acted like i didn't care that much even though i was shattered. Ive started talking to her again and its made me realize that im not sure if i can keep just being her "friend." I really need help is there any chance for me to get out of the friend zone or am i stuck. plzzzzz help
So u stopped Talking to her in hopes of just forgetting about her & moving. Lol that shit never works lol
I love this girl and was childhood friends. I moved to US and she lives
in Singapore. I told her on email I liked her. She said she wants to be
"just" friends. However, I flirted for 6 years online. It seems she only
remembers me as a friend and does not know me well enough. She told her
friends I am awesome and cute. I sent her romantic poems since I am a
good poet. She was impressed. How do I make her my girl friend? Should I
fly to see her and confess my feelings? will this be needy or will it
show I am confident and I can do anything to pursue her? Even if she
agrees it will be long distance. I know this is complex but someone
please help. Please do not tell me to give up, because I am a person who
tries hard and never gives up. Thanks.
I need help. I've been friends with this girl for almost 3 years now but we have never really been friends. She liked me pretty much off the start and I liked her too but we could never admit it to each other. We started talking intensely over the summer of 2012, every night for hours. Then in September she told me she liked me. i liked her too, but i decided not to act on it since it would only complicate things such as our friendship. Not to mention her friends hate me since they were fond of her ex boyfriend whom she basically broke up with because she had feelings for me. They also think i played with her feelings because one night I was sweet talking her and then when she asked me if i liked her i said no because i felt as though i couldn't risk a relationship where i would lose her forever. That's why they hate me pretty much. eventually I asked her out on october 25th and we were so happy for almost a month becasue we kept it a secret. She had a boyfriend and bestfriends. But as soon as we started telling people we were in a relationship, we started getting into fights and it got complicated. she broke up with me on December 12th because she felt like she couldnt deal with the stress and it wasnt worth losing her friends because as a result of her being in a relationship with me, they stopped talking to her which is extremely childish. I eventually won her back on Jan 2nd 2013 and we were extremly happy for 6 days until she broke up with me again. It was too stressful and drove her to attempt to commit suicide. It has been very tense since then. She kissed me on Jan 16th and 17th and told me she loved me again only on Jan 31st! But now on February 7th she says she doesnt know if she loves me or not, she just has feelings for me but they are not as strong as before. She says she doesnt want a relationship with me practically ever again or for a very long time because it complicates things. But its not really me. She says shes looking for something long term and she cant imagine me in her future as her boyfriend with all this drama. Yet she is always the one to give up on us. If shes talking long term, i've been there for years and after everything i still stand by her. We still can be happy, shes just trying to forget about me. How can I just stop her and make her see what shes missing? She says she sees the positive side of us, but the negative out weighs it. Her friends are very immature and when i try to work it out with them they just brush me off and shut me down. They make no attempt to resolve the situation. I know she still has feelings for me, but I feel like we dont talk as much or see eachother as much anymore so its fading away. I dont want to go back to being friends, but she does because in her mind it would not make complicate things and make her life easier. I need to show her im like worth it and its hard too. Any ideas? idk if its time to throw it in or move on because i know there is still a substantial amount of romantic attraction between us I just dont know how to work it to my advantage. And when ever i bring this up she doesnt like it and she ends the convo there because she just wants to completely forget about it. HELP ME PLEASSE, I need to get her back. Im crazily in love with her and its just not the same without her even after over a month! I feel like if i give it time I can turn it around but i might lose her forever if i give it time since these feelings are fading for her. How can I make her want me back? It does have alot of stress i just feel like we need to work that out between us and make it work. She just always gives up which surprises me since she wanted this. She was the first one to cross the friendly border. Can I be friend zoned forever? What is my best plan of action to get her back? How can I make her want me? I just want her back ! :'(
tell her that the two of you should have babies
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Wow, hello! You are such a charmer, of course you should fly over and confess!
If I were her, I would be so touched! I think love is love, distance should not be a problem.
Lay your cards on the table. If you get rejected, it's gonna hurt but move on. You'll get closure eventually. I am telling you, it WILL hurt if she rejects you, but one way or another you have to act. Don't be over assertive, just tell her how it is, and if she doesn't like it and fucks you off or around, then it's not meant to be. You never know how someone will react to something, it might be good or it might be bad, but ultimately, it all works out how it's supposed to.
will u ever go back to singapore for work or study?…
I read the article and it said something about showing her something she's never seen from you so if you are a secretly good guitar player , Learn the song "Make it with you" by the band bread. I think it really sums up your issue ! Let's hope it works for you because I'm going to sing it to a girl I've liked for a really long time too .
Best of luck bro .
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Girls are just extremely complicated, I would know because i'm one of them! The easiest thing to do (and i'm telling you because this is something i would/have done is to "let go and let God". relationships don't stand a chance without God in the middle of them. trust me! Hope Everything works out! you're in my prayers! Pslam34:18 "The Lord is near to the brokenhearted and saves those who are crushed in spirit"
ok so theres this girl at my school who im friends with, and last year it seemed like she liked me alot but i wasnt sure so i didnt act on it as it might ruin the friendship. but this year first semester she had a boyfriend but it still seemed like she was into me, now this semester comes along and im not so sure if she still likes me but i really want to ask her out, and im not so sure what to do anymore
so there this girl who rejected me by saying that shes not ready for a relationship. i've known her since the 1st year of our college. i was kinda dull at that time. i was kinda thin, chat most of the time with her on facebook and text mostly.i didnt have the guts to tell her everything i wanna say. i was kinda choke with words thinking that if i say this thing and it will get her angry, im fucked. so she rejected me. 2 years has passed and now were classmates again.I am now fit . cut my hair to short. i have gain the confidence to be me and talk to every girls and say what i want even though its reckless.she saw how good i was in guitar, what i mean is very good at it. i have ignored her for weeks. now i heard she wanna be "close friends" with me. Everything seems so different. it feels that shes interested now, she touches me often, telling compliments to me. but i am trying my best to ignore what she says and keep flirting with any other girl. i am making her feel that shes not a loss though she really was. shes telling me that shes looking for a boyfriend. she also told me of the things i did before with her, how we spend our time and the things we talked. i've changed my ways from being a coward shit to more of a jerk/cool attitude. Now, do you think i have the chance to make it again up with her? or shes just being nice and friendly?
this is all dumb, just fuck her, what are you in high school?
Been hangin out with this girl, her boyfriend and past boyfriends all cheated on her. She's single now, as of a few weeks ago, and I'm planning on moving in. The only logical way I see is to be honest and confident. Known her for almost a full academic year, so I may be in the friendzone. Was wondering if anyone had any advice.
i see what your saying, but women like men that are a challenge, men are the same way. but in terms of going to more than freinds, best way is to do what you said but maintain alittle mystery about yourself and invite her out or whatever you feel is best for her type of personality. i like this article, what do you think about it? we have to draw them in as well. make it fun
Let me tell you something bro. Girls are the most complex thing in the world. Mostly everything comes down to their emotions so if she doesn't FEEL like you two can work out she'll never be committed to being in a relationship with you.
Unfortunately there isn't much that you can do about HER feelings. All you can really do is tell her how you feel about her (it seems you already did and she knows)…. and that's really about it. You don't want to be too clingy or needy.
The next step imo, give yourself and her some space and time. I know this will be hard… I'm talking at least a few months. In that time, explore your hobbies, maybe try to rectify your relationship with her friends. Don't be too apologetic but let them know that you care about her a lot and didn't mean to hurt anyone. After things cool down after some time, you can tell the girl how you feel. You'll know whether or not you could live without her in your life in any capacity. Ask her how she feels about being away from you for a bit. Let her know that you've only ever cared about her well-being and you've always stood by (only if you mean it). If you don't think you can be friends because it's too hard, then let her know. Don't giver her an ultimatum just be real about it. Tell her you either want to be with her, or not.
At this point, I would advise you to not let go of someone who obviously means so much to you. If she doesn't want to be more than friends, maybe just friends is a good alternative. But if you go that route, you cannot have deeper feelings and you must also be comfortable being friends. otherwise don't do it.
Remember 2 things. Honesty is the best policy and time heals all wounds.
that's rape
I'm in the friend zone. told the girl i liked her last summer, she said she used to like me years ago, but was not sure how i felt so she didn't confess, but now she just wants to b friends, i have gone out with her a few times as friends. and I am tired of it. I no longer want to b friends cause its painful, so i want to end the friendship and i dont care if i hook up with her or not. but she made it seem like im her only friend so i feel guilty. I tired being overly friendly so that she would just end it herself but she keeps on forgiving me. What should i do? tell her i want to fuck her and see what happens? be more touchy feely? or just stop talking to her and look like a complete ass? or some other option need help? Also i wont c her 4 like 6 months and i talk 2 her on facebook like once a month. should i friendship breakup over the internet, phone or, in person? and how should i go about doing it?
Are you still waiting?
From what you've wrote here, she's ALL into you.
Go get her fella.
well duh. just go for it. if it doesnt work out with her theres like billions of other girls out there. shes not the only one
if she said she doesnt want to be in a relationship that usually means that she just wants to stay friends
There is this girl i know we are very close to each other we flirt alot, dirty jokes you name it, so i told her i like her, she said that she sees me as "best friends" not lovers, i told her sorry i cant be "best friends" anymore i cant see her being out on a date with an other guy while im just there as your friend, it would hurt alot, she said she doesnt want us to no longer be friends, i told her i cant do this anymore, she is pretty much upset about it, what should i do now?
This girl broke up with someone over the summer. He was a sexual deviant, took her virginity and corrupted her in my opinion. She's not slutty, will only sleep with guys she knows very well. I was her 3rd. Anyway, she's at my old college 4 hours away, I graduated. She lives a half hour from my house. We really went at it in January texting everyday for hours at night, some texts her and there during the day. I went and visited her 3 weekends ago. Things went great, we kissed, cuddled, fucked. I asked her how she felt about being more than friends. She said she didn't really want anything serious. We have similar personalities. The past week and a half we starting in addition to texting, talking on the phone for an hour plus a night. I was coming up Valentines day weekend Friday night and leaving Monday. She knew this, was very excited and was talking about stuff we would do that weekend. This involved possibly going sledding, doing new things in bed, possibly sex in the library, getting a fish fry on Friday. Sounded like and I thought it would be the best weekend ever. But things fell thru……..
I surprised her on Valentines day. I showed up at her house with a rose, box of chocolates, chocolate covered strawberries, and a stuffed version of her favorite animal. That night was fun, shes so comfortable with me at that point we watched a movie with her roommates boy. While they watched more of the movie we more kissing and I was fingering her. I told her again that night were really close we should just make it official and be bf/gf. She still wasn't ready but said maybe I'll be ready this weekend.
Next day hell happened? We were both drinking with friends pregaming. Ive told her before I'm clingy when I'm drunk, girls have made me punch walls when I'm black out hammered. So she basically needed to be by me when I was drunk. Well…I drank a lot that night. I remember bits and pieces of the last hour. Long story short, I was somewhat possessive of her, ended up puking in her car on the way back and at her house. Called her a bitch I guess and told her to fuck off when she was helping me. She washed my clothes for me. And I think more less told me we were done…. I slept alone.
Next morning. I told her I was sorry. I guess I said that several times, told her all girls do this to me that I'm close with (yea un attractive, I was hammered). She told me she didn't want anything serious but was giving me a shot. Ima fun person blah blah like talking to you. She told me I wasn't mature enough, and that last night, when I was hammered she saw things about me that she hadn't realized before. Apparently and she told me I'm not strong enough to be her man (I am fairly skinny, she's about the same as me maybe even a bit heavier, but I think she meant more emotionally) and also she didn't like the way I acted Friday night and Saturday being all emotion whining, crying, and being sad about it…she didn't know if she could handle that in a guy. She also talked about dhow she's going into grad school and will be meeting new people. I haven't really texted her since, just once asking her what she saw in me that made her drastically change her mind. She said it was my emotional side the day after I got hammered. I feel it was completely unfair to judge me when I'm hammered. And in truly believe I am not as emotional as she thinks (being hammered magnifies everything).
I just wanna know what you guys think. Obviously I need some time away from talking to her. This is really hard to me, I consider her one of my best friends and have talked to her non stop the past month and a half. I don't get over girls easily. I'd love to be friends still texting and hang out with her at home, but I could not handle it if she found another guy whiled we are friends. I'll obviously keep looking for someone else, but whats your take in this/best route for me to go by?
Learn to handle your drink?
This article is about turning a friend into a lover. Are you suggesting people should have sex with Jesus?
hold your ground.. duh.. dont cave in, you will be seen as weak, and no girl wants a weak guy… the whole point in this article is you have to "reset" your friendship.. and start it over from scratch if you ever want a chance (sexually) with this girl.. once you have reset the friendship, you just follow all the tips and techniques that you would when meeting a girl for the first time
Notice one thing, this girl is nuts. Suicide attempts? No. Get away from her fast.
So how do I "Telling her YOUR INTENT when you first interact" ?? Just straight up tell her I want to chase you?
lol seriosly? If you know you can't handle your drinking don't drink. You fucked this up yourself.
OK SIMPLE..
So, you're story is… that you're an asshole.
The End.
Cool Story
-Bro
You've gotten through the hardest part. Don't back out now. She may give you a chance right there and then ("I guess we could try going out on a date."), or you may stop talking for a while (about 6 months), and then you can start off fresh. This time, you'll do all the right things to be more than friends wth her.
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Most likely, you missed your chance. I've been there with the whole, "didn't want to ruin the friendship". The question you have to ask yourself is, do you actually value the friendship, or is the friendship just a means of being close to her. If it's the latter, then forget the friendship, and ask her out.
Guy that's in love, I want you to listen to me very carefully.
I'm not going to tell you what you should or should not do. I'm not a pro with girls. I've only had sex once, and it was when we were both drunk. For me to give you a definite course of action would be ill-advised. Here's what I will tell you, though.
Right now, you're not clear-headed. I can tell just by the tone of your article that you're in desperation mode. You need to maybe workout, smoke a joint of marijuana, or take a yoga class, but whatever it takes, you must calm down. You need to think about your situation logically. The worst decisions are made when we can't step back and look at the situation objectively. My opinion is that objectively, you should let her go. Based on the amount of grief you've displayed, it seems like she's done you more harm than good. It's not her fault, nor is it yours, but your continuing drama seems to make you both miserable. Maybe once you're both a bit more mature, (you're probably young adolescents, based on everything), you may have a shot at having something stable, but right, just let it go. I know it does not seem like it right now, but there are plenty of fish in the sea, and it's our nature to fall in love very fast (it's evolution's mechanism of action to get us to churn out babies). You may think there's no one like her, but give a month or two and you'll see that there are many girls like her.
I hope this advice helps.
What a absolutely fucking terrible read that was, this guy knows little to nothing about relationships or women, what a load of turd!
Tell me more about how you pick up chicks all the time.
Someone's a bit cranky he's been friendzoned.
Fuck off fag they know more than you
peter you are a fag.
Love it!
To the point, articulate and very interesting,
Thanks
And you've fucked how many woman?
I can't believe I wasted my time reading that. You knowingly get drunk in front of her(w/ the possibility of punching walls, etc) and think she'll just be like(ok thats fine with me, I like guys who don't control their drinking and act out viciously). C'mon dude, really? You sound like a degenerate who didn't graduate high school but wants to date the valedictorian.
Your description of how to turn a friend into a lover had me squirming. It felt like you guys were embarrassed or uncomfortable in explaining what to do. Its read like you were trying to explain it to a 10 year old, using no swear words with an emphasis on politeness, vagueness & nudge nudge wink wink ????????? The ending sounded like the cliche: 'Just be yourself' ?????????
I hate to break it to you bud, but you kinda screwed up. Getting hammered isn't an excuse – in fact, she probably thinks that that's the 'real' you or something. I know that sounds douchey, but it's exactly what a friend confided in me about her ex when they broke up.
Best thing to do is probably to earn her respect again. Apologizing for whatever it was you've done (which you've done) is a good start, but you should also give her a bit of space. I wouldn't completely drop her though, because that'd just tell her you really are that 'emotional' person. Reduce the number of texts, but don't lose contact. If your friendship is strong, it won't be broken beyond repair…and who knows what'd happen from there?
I actually agree with Peter…
Step back and take a look at what's actually being said. It's a load of crap.
And before you attack me, I'm a) straight, b) in a relationship and c) definitely not a virgin.
Well er eis one for all… I met a woman at work over ayear ago. She admited to me that she wanted us both to get her acts together and then give it a shot. She moved away for 8 months, She called every two weeks in meltdown mode. Missing her kids. I supported here and got her atitutde back inline. well to make this interesting, I am seperated, she is in a custodey battle with her ex. we are 15 years apart in age. We kept in touch over lat year and she missed her kids so bad she moved back and then moved in with me and has been here for 2 months. I am th eonly one in the world who knows all the shit she has gone through. She only has told me the extreme details and have an open book to all the court docuemnts, I talk to her lawyer and her about her miserable ex and his new wife. I am th eonly one she confides in to this depth… We never have a disagreement.
She could go back and live with her family but stayus with memost of the time. she has said we are just friends and we have no connections. Why does she stay in my house, tell me her deepest problems and issues, and then not move back to her sisters house. She always states "we" are going to do this and do that, then when it comes to her kids, who really like me, she plays the we are just friends card. then includes me in her court case , asks me to help with her legal docuements. To night she said that she not in love with me.. Totally unsolicted. out of the blue… for no real reason.. Then tells me she would like to have a boyfriend to help her out and help her. Exactly what I am doing..
She could go and live with her family but still stays with me. I care about her and frankly would hate to see her leave but I see her family as a bunch of users who abuse her and lead her astray back to a shitty life and in a very poor area. Well Maybe I am blind and naeve.. How do I turn this nboat in my favor.
A story for all here…
… and i really dont know what i should do… i dont wanna mess things up and lose her for good… btw im 19 ,same as her…
Well i am a friend with a girl for about 2 years and at the begining our realationship wasnt too close and later on it turned up to become really close. we spend time togheter,hang out, she talks to me with all her problems and stuff like that… and i started to fall for her and right now i am definitly in love with her… so the problem here is that she has a boyfriend for a year and a half… and me like a good guy didnt want to talk to her about my feelings because i didnt want to bother her while in a realationship… and i wanted to w8 for her to break up and then talk to her about this stuff but it doesnt seem that she is gonna break up soon
any advice ?
I'm happy that you're in a relationship, and that the advice on this website doesn't apply to you, but I'd like to ask you to step back and realize that what they're saying isn't a load of crap, nor is it really that counter-intuitive or shocking. If you're friends with a girl, and you're not satisfied with just being friends, then every single time you hang out with her, it will be torture. The best option is to tell her how you feel.
If she rejects you, and you stick around, then things get awkward. She'll always know you have a thing for her, and if you hang out with her, pretending that you don't, she'll see you as being not genuine. And she'll be right. You'll always want her as more than just a friend, and that will always be the elephant in the room.
If anything, not hanging out with her for a few months, not only gives her a chance to meet you again on different terms and potentially see you as more than just a friend, it gives you a chance to move on, and maybe meet a different girl. Once you do, you can truly be friends with the girl you've confessed to her. She won't see your friendship as being not-genuine, and she'll know you really want to be friends with her.Unless of course, you really are satisfied with just being friends, in which case, this article really wouldn't apply. I have plenty of attractive girl friends, and the guys are right; they're great wing women. Also no one can teach you more about women than a girl that respects you and really knows herself.
They don't want to alienate their readers by telling them straight up, "Grow a pair and let her know how you feel. If she rejects you, deal with it. There's nothing more to be done." (Also, it would be kind of cruel).
The kind of guys that would need to read this article are exactly the kind that wouldn't be able to handle the cold hard truth. See Peter's comment below. He didn't write a well-reasoned comment because this article hits close to home for him. In fact, none of the detractors have. It's because the idea that you might not be able to be 'more than friends' with a girl, is inconceivably painful. Everyone can relate to that, it's just easier for some people to move on.
I don't know if you can turn this into your favor, but it seems like she's using you to get away from her family. You have 2 options.
1. Make an ultimatum: we get together or maybe she should find a different place to live (NOT what I'd recommend)
2. Let her stay, but let her stay as a close friend. She seems like she could use the help. Move on. It's better for both you and her this way. If you really want to be a point of stability for her, don't be the guy that's only around her just for a chance to sleep with her/be her boyfriend.
I agree… Move on and see …. My ex is keeping close bases with me and I have to admit, I have split emotions about that. Another story but I really want and care for this girl. Not to metion she is hot. She does not like the idea of me dating, although she says I shoult think about it. then she says I should not. Confused to say the least. I am moving on but it is a slight problem as I really woul d be uncomfortable bring a date home when she is there.. She is and probable will always be confused. Her friends keep calling her and offering advice but nothing that actually helps. I am killing my feelings for her as I fast as I can… I want her to be safe, too bad for her as if she did go for it… she wou d have it made as I would support her fully and let her become what she could be. I would still like to swing this my way… but I do not see how, unless of couse I ditch her and try again later.
Hey guys,
Don't make some big announcement, don't say "I want to be more than friends" right away, until you've got her really hot. To get her hot, just start putting the moves on her. If she is hot, she will love the idea of being more than friends with her guy friend who turns her on. If she's not hot, she will automatically say no to this kind of big formal announcement bomb.
the time to ask her to be more than friends is when you're starting to make out, not before. if you cannot figure out how to get her to make out, then you will probably not be her boyfriend.
And never, ever say "I want to go on a date with you that will lead to sex." This is not a good line. This is s-c-a-r-y. This is way too much of an open ended commitment way to fast. She has no idea what you are like sexually, because you have never been sexual with her. You need to show her your sexual side, subtley and with finess, so she can decide, subtely and with finess, whether she likes it or not.
If you want to her to be her girlfriend, she has to like you as a friend, AND has to be turned on by the thought of being with you, romatically and sexually. You already have the friend part down, now you just have to turn her on romatically and sexually.
How to put the moves on her. Be subtle. Read her moods. When she is responding as a friend, be her friend. When she is responding romantically, be romantic. Look into her eyes. Think about being alone with her on a desrted island. When she is responding sexually, start being sexual. Give her body a steamy look. Start touching her. When she wants to dance and have fun, dance and have fun.
However, it is very important in seduction to go slowly. Seduction is a dance, not a business contract to "be more than friends"
Read her moods. It is very important to stop when her mood changes. If she goes from being romantic to being friendly, change right with her, be her friend for a few moments, you like her company, right?, then she might change to a romantic mood, change with her.
Above all, keep it light, you are there to dance together and enjoy life. Don't worry if things aren't moving as fast as you like, her mood will always swing back into romance, eventaully, she is, after all, a woman.
It is very important to be able to give her space. To give her her space, you have to be secure with your own space. This means having your life on the ball. Knowing what you want. Being mature.
All of these moves are very, very, very, very SUBTLE. They just happen in the course of everyday conversation. If she is in a romantic mood, say "what a beautiful day" while looking into her eyes and "casually" touching her arm or shoulder for a brief moment. If she is in a sexual mood say "what a beautiful day" while looking at her hot body. she will love it! If she is in a friendly mood, say "what a beautiful day" in just a friendly way. it is a beautiful day, you are friends and spending time with a woman who you like. celebrate.
If you get the sense that she is not into it at the moment, BACK OFF. walk over to the other side of the room. read a magazine. look out the window. ignore her. you will sense when she is back into wanting to interact with you. then back to the dance of putting more moves on her!
knowing when to back off and give women their space is perhaps the hardest part of seduction for guys to master. when you do back off, do is subtley, subtley. never, ever act rejected or insecure. and never ask to discuss why she needs her space. as soon as you sense she needs a little space, hit the eject button right then and there. say, hey I got go make a call. go do something else. you can always come back. women love this
Also, this is very important: pay attention to how she feels, not to what she says. women are emotional creatures. if she asks you to go away, try to sense if she is a) really asking you to stay, emotionally, then stay! or b) really asking you to go away, then go, but do not go away mad. go away a gentleman
always be a gentleman
always be yourself. if she is in a romatic mood, don't be afraid to show a little of your sensitive and insecure side. do not, however act sensitive and insecure, if the mood is not romantic. if she is in a sexy mood, go for it, show a little glimpse of your naughty thoughts about her. i gaurantee you will catch a little smile if you are subtle. if she is in a friendly mood, show her your fun and friendly side. if she is in a want my space mood, show her you indenpendent side.
if she starts responding, ramp it up a little. touch her more. but still keep it light and fun. and do not be afraid to take a little breather.
also, keep in mind, she is not your gilrfriend, yet, so you have every right to flirt with other women. do this when she is not around. or flirt very subtley with other women when she is around. woman are attracted to men whom other women are attracted to. they can smell it on you. it gives you confidence and makes her want to flirt with you more.
once you learn how to really seduce a woman, and you will, it just takes time, and a willingness to treat women with respect, and a love for women, then your friend may just become your new friend and lover.
you're her firend already, so she probably sees something in you she likes
Hey guys,
Don't make some big announcement;
don't say "I want to be more than friends" right away, until you've
got her really hot. To get her hot, just start putting the moves on her. If she
is hot, she will love the idea of being more than friends with her guy friend
who turns her on. If she's not hot, she will automatically say no to this kind
of big formal announcement bomb.
the time to ask her to
be more than friends is when you're starting to make out, not before. if you
cannot figure out how to get her to make out, then you will probably not be her
boyfriend.
And never, ever say
"I want to go on a date with you that will lead to sex." This is not
a good line. This is s-c-a-r-y. This is way too much of an open ended
commitment way to fast. She has no idea what you are like sexually, because you
have never been sexual with her. You need to show her your sexual side, subtlety
and with finesse, so she can decide, subtly and with finesse, whether she likes
it or not.
If you want to her to
be your girlfriend, she has to like you as a friend AND she has to be turned on
by the thought of being with you, romantically and sexually. You already have
the friend part down, now you just have to turn her on romantically and
sexually.
How to put the moves
on her. Be subtle. Read her moods. When she is responding as a friend, be her
friend. When she is responding romantically, be romantic. Look into her eyes.
Think about being alone with her on a deserted island. When she is responding
sexually, start being sexual. Give her body a steamy look. Start touching her.
When she wants to dance and have fun, dance and have fun.
However, it is very
important in seduction to go slowly. Seduction is a dance, not a business
contract to "be more than friends"
Read her moods. It is
very important to stop when her mood changes. If she goes from being romantic
to being friendly, change right with her, be her friend for a few moments, you
like her company, right?, then she might change to a romantic mood, change with
her.
Above all, keep it light, you are there to dance together and enjoy life. Don't
worry if things aren't moving as fast as you like, her mood will always swing
back into romance, eventually, she is, after all, a woman.
It is very important
to be able to give her space. To give her space, you have to be secure with
your own space. This means having your life on the ball. Knowing what you want.
Being mature.
All of these moves are
very, very, very, very SUBTLE. They just happen in the course of everyday
conversation. If she is in a romantic mood, say "what a beautiful
day" while looking into her eyes and "casually" touching her arm
or shoulder for a brief moment. If she is in a sexual mood say "what a
beautiful day" while looking at her hot body. she will love it! If she is
in a friendly mood, say "what a beautiful day" in just a friendly
way. it is a beautiful day, you are friends and spending time with a woman who
you like. celebrate.
If you get the sense
that she is not into it at the moment, BACK OFF. walk over to the other side of
the room. read a magazine. look out the window. ignore her. you will sense when
she is back into wanting to interact with you. then back to the dance of
putting more moves on her!
knowing when to back
off and give women their space is perhaps the hardest part of seduction for
guys to master. when you do back off, do is subtlety, subtlety. never, ever act
rejected or insecure. and never ask to discuss why she needs her space. as soon
as you sense she needs a little space, hit the eject button right then and
there. say, hey I got go make a call. go do something else. you can always come
back. women love this
Also, this is very
important: pay attention to how she feels, not to what she says. women are
emotional creatures. if she asks you to go away, try to sense if she is a)
really asking you to stay, emotionally, then stay! or b) really asking you to
go away, then go, but do not go away mad. go away a gentleman
always be a gentleman
always be yourself. if
she is in a romantic mood, don't be afraid to show a little of your sensitive
and insecure side. do not, however act sensitive and insecure, if the mood is
not romantic. if she is in a sexy mood, go for it, show a little glimpse of your
naughty thoughts about her. i guarantee you will catch a little smile if you
are subtle. if she is in a friendly mood, show her your fun and friendly side.
if she is in a want my space mood, show her you independent side.
if she starts
responding, ramp it up a little. touch her more. but still keep it light and
fun. and do not be afraid to take a little breather.
also, keep in mind,
she is not your girlfriend, yet, so you have every right to flirt with other
women. do this when she is not around. or flirt very subtlety with other women
when she is around. woman are attracted to men whom other women are attracted
to. they can smell it on you. it gives you confidence and makes her want to
flirt with you more.
once you learn how to
really seduce a woman, and you will, it just takes time, and a willingness to
treat women with respect, and a love for women, then your friend may just
become your new friend and lover.
you're her friend already, so she probably sees something in you
she likes
Nice
Awesome advice Oakleaf,
Splendidly written.
Not bad… I'll add that I give a girl two dates (somewhat loosely defined) to be in bed or I dump her. Any hint of her wanting to be friends, and it is goodbye. There is only one I ever let go past that, but I got plenty of hanky panky from her in the meantime and I actually did like her as a friend, weird. I usually know in the first fifteen minutes of meeting a girl whether we will have sex, but sometimes it is even before we actually meet. More than once, first eye contact cements the deal. In one example, it was with a store clerk behind the counter and out of reach. I knew we would be having sex soon, so I left my number on a note with the security guard and asked him to pass it on. About an hour later, ring! In another, just some random girl on the other side of the mall atrium, I finally caught up with her, and we are in bed before dinner. You can tell from her eyes. Age does not matter either, in these cases, I was 15 to 18 years older than she was (they were over 18), and the average age of women I sleep with is 22, and that has not changed in 20 years. I won't even, and do not need to go out with a woman over 30 unless she is Asian because they keep their looks longer, reunions not withstanding.
What is great is when you get a sexmate who hooks you up with her friends or sleeps with you if unsuccessful. I suppose if you are lucky, she would join in, but I've only had one of those even be in the room at the same time (two if you count a sister). All the menage a tois have been when I met both girls at the same time.
i like a girl and we are good friends now…we chat,we talk for long on the phone and have great conversations and she is very frank with me.She laughs at my jokes,doesnt mind when i flirt but when it comes to meeting she makes some stupid reasons…what could be the problem?
hi my name is Gloria. E here is my delema i was married for 2 1/2 years with a guy that i dated for 8 years we have a 2 yr old daughter together well in October out of the blue my x husband came to me and told me that he did not love me , did not want to be with me , and that's why we did not have sex for the last 4 months prior , and he told me he had a new friend , and that he was sleeping with her , and seeing her as a friend , and he told me that i was his friend too and that he wanted to separate with me, i really love him so so much i cry all day all night i always tell him come let solve the problem together and come together as one family again but him wouldn't listen to me, i saw a testimony online how people testify against Dr Omo, [email protected] solving home problem and many other thing so i email Dr Omo and i explain every thing that happen between me and my husband, he told me not to worry that he have solved this type of problem so many times, Dr said he is going to cast a love spell and also renew our relationship so that my husband will love and cherish my forever, after the casting of the spell my husband came home asking for my forgiveness that he is not going to cheat on my again that he love me. PLS HELP MY THANK [email protected] FOR BUILDING MY HOME AGAIN
So I REALLY like this girl who is my good friends best friend (she is also a girl) she has had the same boyfriend from start of junior high to second year of high school which we are on now. I'm in a shitty situation because if I make a move It may ruine my good friendship with her best friend (who is also my best friends girlfriend) and because my other idiot friend tried a move on her while being shitfaced while beeing deep in her friendzone and made a fool of him self which made things very akward between them even though she was super cool with it even when my friend went way over the line. So I could endup cold as he did even when I woud do it right because she seems very loyal to her boyfriend cause she is the nicest person I know and would not hurt anyone. I see her everyday at school and in parties but I dont believe that im on her friendzone yet.. She seems to be into me but it could just be my head playing tricks.. It woud be too painful just not to do something and watch her for couple more years in school (or even longer because of ouer mutal friends) while she is with that little sissy boyfriend of hers who doesn't deserve that beaty and personality. Any ideas??
What's up guys ive been following you for about a year and its been very helpful thanks a lot!! I got a question what would be your best advice with getting a girl who has a BF..I've known her for 2 years and just recently ive wanted more than just friends..it's hard because she's been dating this guy for 5 years I think I should just let it go but I thought I'd ask the masters before doing anything. When you can message me back thanks [email protected]
should have read this page 6 weeks ago.. and today I would not have been sitting here reading and regretting every action up here! But – sometimes a kick in the nuts is needed. The pain from that kick makes you a man. The kick makes you look for answers – and sometimes you end up on the right page and find them! thanks!
What if you like a friend that you hadn't seen in a while, and when you go visit you fall for her? Back home now and can't get her off my mind.
haha its easy enough to talk about doing this stuff, but with some girls its a bit harder to do it, for instance im into one of my flatmates, if shit fucks up i kinda still gotta live with her.
I've done this, I been friends with her for 4yrs or more we hangout from time to time and I can see we have a connection by just looking at her. So I finally show her that I like her by holding her hand, teasing, and kiss her. I know that she likes me too because of the fact she didn't feel weird and actually smile to me. days past that we now kissing always at each other but not actually in the relationship, then comes one day after all those she suddenly stop texting and talking.. It's been great 3 weeks for us like that. I still see her but the MU thing is gone i guess, so if she stop i'll stop or do I need to talk to her about what happen? Try to convince her to have that adventure one more time?
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Make the move. Talk to her about what happened. The message that the guys send is clear: state your intentions openly. A kiss was a great start, but figure out what she wants and what she's willing to give. Maybe she's waiting for you to make the first move. Maybe not. You'll never know until you ask.
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Hey jesse, jason, kong love your work but i just wanted to ask you guys something, so i have this girl that i like and she used to give me hugs and everything last year in school she always say hey to me and stuff but for some dumb reason i didn't take my chances with her and now this year she is in one of my classes again and she doesn't even say hey to me (i know it's cause she doesn't find to be attractive in a boyfriend type of way any more) but shit the bitch used to give me hugs and shit wat type shit is that … anyways lol how the fuck can i get this bitch to be thirsty for my dick again … like kong does with jesse when he calls jesse a terrorist lolololol jkjkjk i love you guys haha
yo i wanna know this too pleeeaaasseee there's gotta be some way lol like in one of your vids kong was like "oh, well you can have 2 boyfriends" can't remember which one tho haha
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"""so i said im not looking for anything right now…gonna experiment a bit..but then i thought it won't be that bad..so kinda flirted with her…""" Indecisive: Friend-zoned.
Act like BF doesn't exist: Unless he could kick your ass, then reconsider lol
Does this work when your in high school. Since i don't think i gonna say he you're cute etc. And we might get sex. Then i just get a slap in my face :/
Okay so I met this girl like 3 weeks ago. We hardly ever talk, I message her daily but I also talk to other chicks. The real conversation we had was last wednesday at church. Seemed like it went well. I made myself a plan to take her out to a park and then ill ask her to be my girl friend. I tried to make my intentions clear but I dont know if she picked up on them. She is 20 and Im 18 but I honestly could care less about that. I tried to come off as confident. I want to know opinons on this shit, advice or whatever I can get that could help me. Thanks.
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i am in the friends zone… i have told her that i like her, nd i'd like to have a relationship with her… she also seems to like me, but as u said she just ends up discussing her problems with me and all such other kind of shit….!! what should i do now…???
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Well one big reason why I always get friend zoned is that I always talk to hot girls who are already taken. This has always been a problem which is why I am scared of approaching hot girls.
yeah, i have a friend that i actually just got crush on this school year and i really value our friendship, but i also value having a relationship, it's just really hard knowing that you have a chance of losing them completely forever
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What if she's a mutual friend & you met her recently? Need help
hey i'm 15 and i was wondering where would be some normal places for picking up girls. Do u guys think school would be alright
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